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MF: For example, Genevieve Barr, who wrote the one "Thunderbox" about the right to be a mother: she's a deaf writer. And I honestly thought when I commissioned her, she was gonna write a deaf story. But she said no, she wanted to write this particular thing, and when she told us what it was about, we could not say no, of course. That one I find difficult to watch especially toward the end because it's just so upsetting, you know? These things really happen. And like you say, they're very hard-hitting and powerful, some of these.

PS: I mean, that one specifically, "Thunderbox," is so gripping — I was teary by the end. Ruth Madeley is amazing.

MF: Wasn't she good?

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